tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post5685691098802200791..comments2024-03-29T03:42:38.501-04:00Comments on Collecting Fashion Dolls by Terri Gold: Tonner Convention: The Marilyn CenterpieceTerri Goldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-16159005677437120792014-05-02T10:31:47.226-04:002014-05-02T10:31:47.226-04:00These sites are shocking. How about sites about w...These sites are shocking. How about sites about what we think of America policy BDS against Israel? What we think of immigration policy? What we think of EU? What we think of Kerry or Obama?Sandra Sheveyhttp://sandrashevey.tripod.com/hitchcock.walksnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-6396265750098203102013-12-31T19:18:15.400-05:002013-12-31T19:18:15.400-05:00i got a iplehouse BJD doll with med boob's -wi...i got a iplehouse BJD doll with med boob's -with is very close too MM body type,and i wanted a red dress like in gentlemen prefer blonde's--and no-one make one close to what MM wore.<br />so i don't sew much,but i took a try at it. and it came out not bad.made a pattern for a 65' doll<br />and will post the photo's once i learn how to . jonathonAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299673026498479445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-79016579919769312072013-12-31T19:08:10.150-05:002013-12-31T19:08:10.150-05:00i got a iplehouse BJD doll and i find the body wit...i got a iplehouse BJD doll and i find the body with the med boob's is pretty close to MM body, as i too see all kind's of MM doll's out there and not one good to be called (MARILYN MONROE)<br />i not knowing to much sewing made a pattern,and red dress like the one from GENTLEMEN PREFER BLONDE'S - AND I DID A FAIR JOB..better then what i have seen!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299673026498479445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-21474191282083111462012-08-22T03:57:16.415-04:002012-08-22T03:57:16.415-04:00I see where your coming from, they did have a few ...I see where your coming from, they did have a few details right, although i was thinking back and if you search the Tonner Power Girl from their DC Stars line, it looks to have better domension that are closer, they couldve scaled that up maybe<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-79166513759401975722012-05-24T15:39:58.633-04:002012-05-24T15:39:58.633-04:00I think this doll is great. In comparison to other...I think this doll is great. In comparison to other Marilyns she has a pretty good resemblance. But I also agree that the body does not resemble the style of the fifties that wanted women more on the curvy side. Marilyn was pretty short and not very muscular. So it could be that she weighted little but looked curvy. I just cannot see any more Marilyn dolls. This lady has been way too exploited over the years. I will agree that we need to see other charming ladies come to life through dolls.Dollzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994626845610622967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-55057242930779380132012-05-22T07:48:07.569-04:002012-05-22T07:48:07.569-04:00I don't know...although I like Marilyn, I am n...I don't know...although I like Marilyn, I am not a Marilyn fan per se, so my emotional investment is low, but when I look at Tonner's 22" Marilyn doll, I see a GORGEOUS doll first and foremost. Then I notice that she definitely resembles Marilyn. I think her eyes in particular are very accurate (but you have to see an up-close pic). Of all the pictures of Marilyn dolls that Terri has gathered, I like Tonner's version the best. I never seek out Marilyn dolls, and yet I am fighting some serious temptation with this one! Gah! I really hope there is a more affordable basic in the future.Emilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03120968620872136350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-50872375423934005532012-05-21T19:01:39.925-04:002012-05-21T19:01:39.925-04:00I'm sorry if I was mistaken about her lower we...I'm sorry if I was mistaken about her lower weight: 117 lb. I was going based on what I heard from Scott Fortner, who presented this information at the dinner. (I really am not at all an expert on Marilyn, and was shocked to hear her top weight). I should clarify that I thought I heard him say that her weight at her death and after her gall bladder was removed was 117 lb. And to me--to weigh 117 lb at 36 is pretty small. <br /><br />His website is <a href="http://www.marilynmonroecollection.com/" rel="nofollow">The Marilyn Collection</a>, and he is often called in to verify the authenticity of items up for auction. But I very well could have gotten my information incorrect. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16561766892147111289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-40324162541282880212012-05-20T00:14:01.843-04:002012-05-20T00:14:01.843-04:00For much of her life Marilyn was curvy but slim at...For much of her life Marilyn was curvy but slim at the waist. Her waist at its tiniest was 22-23 inches. Alison: in 1962 Marilyn was at her thinnest, most fragile-looking and this was not representative of her typical size during the 1950s. She had lost 25 lbs in 1961 from gall bladder surgery. <br /><br />That's why I'm disappointed with Tonner's failed attempt. The dolls (22" & 16") are too skinny (there's a glut of this type already) and the face is probably from one of his female superhero sculpts. It looks nothing like Marilyn. Sheesh, the new 16" DeeAnna Denton is skinny compared to the lush 17". <br /><br />The Franklin Mint did a much better job with Marilyn. They made the body curvy, copying the slope of her shoulders, the roundness of her arms, even the shape of her breasts. They got her nose right, too. A shame FM didn't give it more articulation.Minty Freshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11921470489591442665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-3140073199263228482012-05-19T19:43:04.184-04:002012-05-19T19:43:04.184-04:00Fact: The Marilyn Monroe estate has okayed this, a...Fact: The Marilyn Monroe estate has okayed this, as they okay everything with Marilyn's image. Mattel, Franklin Mint, et all all make reference to the Monroe estate. (In fact, it's difficult for the Monroe estate not to not okay anything--they like the money her image brings, no matter how godawful.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-51375865591647022892012-05-19T04:17:41.888-04:002012-05-19T04:17:41.888-04:00Curves or not, proportions at least vaguely consis...Curves or not, proportions at least vaguely consistent with the iconic original are what I'm not seeing in this photo of the doll.<br />As to the facial resemblence......well, I have never been impressed with any of the Tonner portrait faces, yet I have seen repaints using those same sculpts that were dead on! That suggests to me that the basic face structure is pretty close but the paint jobs are weaker.<br />The FM Marilyn's had the same problem and yet when repainted by someone talented are stunning.<br />I think the 22 inch size is a better idea then the 16 inch size since it dodges direct comparision on line by line basis between the Tonner and FM girls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-19003826722190446502012-05-18T23:56:34.951-04:002012-05-18T23:56:34.951-04:00Very helpful post, Alison. Thank you.Very helpful post, Alison. Thank you.Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-6138889664130330352012-05-18T23:35:48.385-04:002012-05-18T23:35:48.385-04:00You know, the collector who presented at tonight&#...You know, the collector who presented at tonight's event pointed out that at Moneoe's curviest period, the lovely 5'5.5" real life doll weighed in at 140 pounds. To me, that doesn't seem all that curvy--either by today's or 1962 standards. Apparently at her "usual" weight, and at the time of her death in 1962, she weighed 117.<br /><br />I just don't see that as all that curvy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16561766892147111289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-11102381231282396192012-05-18T23:20:11.276-04:002012-05-18T23:20:11.276-04:00I ofthen wander if I am the only gay guy that does...I ofthen wander if I am the only gay guy that does not have a hard on for marilyn, yes she was beautiful but hardly represents anything I want my dolls to be, I don't see why insist on a character that has been explored by everyother doll company, aren't there any other Hollywood icons that need exploring...I think is just laziness form the makers it is easier to do a marilyn M. because all the ideas are out there instead of having to research somebody that hasn't been done yet...<br />and BTW I agree RT simply can't do a reeal likeness to anybody in 17 years of collecting I have yet to see a tonner doll that resembles anybdoyDolling Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06456307743070013062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-85333960691495418382012-05-18T21:01:05.929-04:002012-05-18T21:01:05.929-04:00Fact: Marilyn Monroe's face is copyrighted...s...Fact: Marilyn Monroe's face is copyrighted...so Tonner or let alone any manufacturer can't do a perfect likeness without infringing on it, however, I think overall, while I'd like to see a few things tweaked, she's not bad at all. :)Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06656746067645180754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-40499311628056196552012-05-18T20:55:34.215-04:002012-05-18T20:55:34.215-04:00Disappointed also, I won't get a 22" dol...Disappointed also, I won't get a 22" doll, and this is NOT MARILYN<br />the body is too skinny and the face is nothing like Marilyn and<br />the dress is SO TIRED by now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-54431158513416865472012-05-18T20:18:46.442-04:002012-05-18T20:18:46.442-04:00As predicted, the doll's "authorized like...As predicted, the doll's "authorized likeness" isn't there. Superior version of the costume and amazing jewels but the height, cost, and lack of, y'know, an actual resemblance make this an easy pass for me.<br /><br />If Robert Tonner ever did an ACTUAL likeness of someone's "authorized likeness," it would be a miracle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-30708881207896635572012-05-18T20:04:14.916-04:002012-05-18T20:04:14.916-04:00I have to admit I was disappointed all around, but...I have to admit I was disappointed all around, but I will also say that I think part of my disappointment lies in the fault of the photo. In the photos taken directly at the Convention, the resemblance to Marilyn's face seems much better. Still, the body is way too thin. No curvy Marilyn figure on this doll. 22" is too much for me; it would have been much nicer to have a 16" articulated doll that could share the wardrobe of the FM Marilyns. Just my 2 cents. On the plus side - the costume and the jewelry do look spot on!Davelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10720475138513029144noreply@blogger.com