tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post4962415867967333002..comments2024-02-12T17:51:58.705-05:00Comments on Collecting Fashion Dolls by Terri Gold: New Rules! Censorship = FearTerri Goldhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-36991336935557161882013-06-03T23:59:14.482-04:002013-06-03T23:59:14.482-04:00Ths is Bullshit. Plain and simple. Smell, it, beli...Ths is Bullshit. Plain and simple. Smell, it, believe it. <br />I have been bullied more than once on the W Club for simply stating my opinion. The freedom of speech does not exist there. You will be outcast into eternal dolly darkness if you state how you really feel. <br />I don't know know how I how I feel about Mommie Dearest.......but I do that this kind of censorship is wrong. To the Powers that Be at Integrity Toys......try practicing your name sake. INTEGRITY. Sadly, it doesn't exist over there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-42568909256739460762013-06-03T00:04:28.274-04:002013-06-03T00:04:28.274-04:00Thank you for sharing your feelings about the rece...Thank you for sharing your feelings about the recent events. Sad, isn't it?Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-84655463364038076952013-06-02T23:55:14.590-04:002013-06-02T23:55:14.590-04:00Very painful. I'm sorry to hear about that.Very painful. I'm sorry to hear about that. Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-31507499474514863502013-06-02T23:48:31.301-04:002013-06-02T23:48:31.301-04:00I run a doll blog as well (I'm afraid to menti...I run a doll blog as well (I'm afraid to mention which one ...) and now I'm afraid to say anything about W Club dolls on my blog. That company has now made bloggers afraid to post about them, which means they'll be getting less free advertising from us. I blog about dolls because I enjoy it. I've never made a dime from my blog, never gotten a free doll, nothing. ... Yet I'm a great source of free advertising for them and several other doll companies. If they can't appreciate a source of free advertising, then they're pretty foolish, in my opinion. I'm sure I'll still show Integrity dolls on my blog on occasion, but I won't be posting anything about the W Club and I won't be advertising any events for them (convention, etc.). I'm afraid to say ANYTHING about them now. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-84796380167853752092013-06-02T23:31:26.206-04:002013-06-02T23:31:26.206-04:00I had that happen to me on Prego years ago. I was ...I had that happen to me on Prego years ago. I was attacked by a gang of trolls for expressing an opinion. It was so vicious that I almost cried. I had people messaging me privately to say they were on my side, but they were too afraid to say so openly on the forum. They didn't want to get attacked, too. I left Prego and never returned. I STILL won't go back to that forum. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-29255839139858135592013-05-24T22:51:39.504-04:002013-05-24T22:51:39.504-04:00We'll never know.
TWe'll never know.<br />TTerri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-59157357353402150322013-05-24T13:49:22.897-04:002013-05-24T13:49:22.897-04:00As soon as I read that note from the W Club, I tho...As soon as I read that note from the W Club, I thought "this is a personal attack on Terri Gold". It was so blatant and shocking, and I've lost respect for the W Club and whoever runs that board. Seems like bullying to me. Whether they like your opinions or you personally, that type of behavior from a COMPANY is juvenile and pathetic. Of course, they can say the board is independently run and not part of "the company", but we know several admins work for Integrity directly, so that's b.s. I wonder how many "members" are actually just Alain in disguise trying to talk up the product in a positive way. Honestly, nothing would surprise me!<br /><br />-jayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-74645171519165155772013-05-23T21:08:22.172-04:002013-05-23T21:08:22.172-04:00Absolutely true. Good suggestion.Absolutely true. Good suggestion.Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-5393953582215302422013-05-23T21:02:05.271-04:002013-05-23T21:02:05.271-04:00Well, this has certainly become a hot topic! Of co...Well, this has certainly become a hot topic! Of course censorship is bad, I think we can all agree on that. As for receiving negative replies from other forum members, remember that they have a right to criticize your criticism. I think the best we can do on ANY internet forum is to carefully word our posts, give only constructive criticism, and remember that when you express any opinion whatsoever, people are going to disagree with you. And sadly, some of them will not have very imaginative vocabularies. The best you can do is "Keep Calm and Carry On."<br /><br />Mary Beth JenningsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-26306497865225217272013-05-23T20:38:01.962-04:002013-05-23T20:38:01.962-04:00Is Whoknowswherristan anywhere near Jenniferanista...Is Whoknowswherristan anywhere near Jenniferanistan?<br /><br />Mary BethAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-74960629741804488322013-05-23T19:53:31.455-04:002013-05-23T19:53:31.455-04:00The person is asking "Perhaps this doll serve...The person is asking "Perhaps this doll serves a purpose in bringing child abuse to the light instead of sweeping it under the carpet." <br /><br />I cannot imagine how making a doll symbolic of abuse, neglect and brutality - could possibly shed light on the issue. They did not make a documentary. It's a doll. A statute. And they announced it as this great big deal on mothers day and praised the doll as bold and gutsy. Doesn't sound like a cautionary tale to me or someone trying to educate anyone. On the contrary, it was a celebratory gesture, insensitive and distasteful. And the mods just selectively remove posts - based on their own personal like or dislike for someone I guess. What a mess. <br /><br />I am hugely disappointed in their conduct on this and blatant censoring, gag orders and quashing of critical opinions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-69707162818230973092013-05-23T19:17:47.245-04:002013-05-23T19:17:47.245-04:00Thank you for your comments. LOL re: Whoknowswherr...Thank you for your comments. LOL re: Whoknowswherristan.Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-43682514279286352232013-05-23T19:16:36.064-04:002013-05-23T19:16:36.064-04:00I cannot answer any of your questions because it&#...I cannot answer any of your questions because it's all tailored to specific situations with each new rule. Apparently it is now a blanket gag order. I rarely go on any other doll boards that deal with 12" dolls so I do not know if anything is being discussed. Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-10413361467431226422013-05-23T18:59:16.798-04:002013-05-23T18:59:16.798-04:00I am really at a loss to understand why this perso...I am really at a loss to understand why this person thinks my fair question should be censored. Perhaps she can't really answer the question so she attacks me? <br />I saw that post and wondered about it for a long time before I asked the question. Child abuse is rampant. It is reported way too often and sadly kept secret even more often. <br />Perhaps the mods think my question should be in the "off topic" section of the forum. But then so should the statement I was questioning. Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-10963546515703053242013-05-23T18:29:32.691-04:002013-05-23T18:29:32.691-04:00well its the same thing with the mommy dearest thi...well its the same thing with the mommy dearest thing. The W club took down the entire thread where people were voicing their dislike of the doll and sporadically mods selectively removed comments they personally don't like. And then that whole "no sense of humor thing" - A very specific member or two (one male, one female) have dismissed the criticism and concerns of people regarding the doll as a general lack of sense of humor. <br /><br />So if you can't find humor in someone almost strangling their kid and banging their head against the wall and beating them with a hanger or any kind of other abuse actually, including rape, then you are a humorless slacker who cannot enjoy life. This is how members who have voiced criticism of the doll have been dismissed and bullied out of conversations. In fact this is how members who don't agree with the samw 2 or 3 people are treated in general, not just with respect ot this. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-14633064689655624772013-05-23T16:50:49.384-04:002013-05-23T16:50:49.384-04:00Ah there is all sorts of fuckery going on on the W...Ah there is all sorts of fuckery going on on the W club. A person who thinks that making a doll out of an abusive character supposedly sheds light on child abuse has their offensive comments standing, but someone (you) asking her a fair question as to how light is being shed onto the issue by issuing the doll of the abuser is being censored. <br /><br />Another person had asked how a hanger and the doll personified could possibly shed light on the issue and their comment got removed too. <br /><br /><br />The more IT tries to suppress discussions on this, the more they are giving the impression that they are hiding something. if they think Mommy Dearest is such a great doll and they are standing behind their product, they shouldnt try to quash opinions that question this doll but actually maybe try to come up with a reason why they thought it was harmless and ok to create such a doll and then maybe issue a fucking apology. Not censor comments. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-11031733009838727222013-05-23T11:56:43.735-04:002013-05-23T11:56:43.735-04:00Okaaay so the IT board is Fightclub now? Like Anon...Okaaay so the IT board is Fightclub now? Like Anon said what are they hiding? It sounds super paranoid.Like the first chapter of How to Start a Cult for Dummies.SharonBCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-56169763545858236392013-05-23T01:14:21.535-04:002013-05-23T01:14:21.535-04:00A gag order? For crying out loud. This is doll col...A gag order? For crying out loud. This is doll collecting not freaking wikileaks as someone mentioned above. IT needs to get over itself. Thought policing and crap like that never makes for a good business and marketing strategy. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-27594718925630534952013-05-23T01:08:12.068-04:002013-05-23T01:08:12.068-04:00OMG the same happened to me too. Doll collecting, ...OMG the same happened to me too. Doll collecting, just like anything in this manner, is a matter of personal taste and you cannot argue with people about their taste. You can argue facts that are irrespective of taste, but you cannot argue artistic or visual preferences. There are members there that literally bully you when you post anything critical of a doll they like. Some are over and some just leave some passive aggressive thing. So anyway i too got an email from a mod. I explained what was going on - who said what and when - and also asked them to point out to me exactly what was so offensive about a post. I never heard back...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-12569999646555741082013-05-23T01:04:24.090-04:002013-05-23T01:04:24.090-04:00Caring about a safe atmosphere is especially rich ...Caring about a safe atmosphere is especially rich coming from a company that just enthusiastically announced the Mommy dearest abusive commemorative doll "just in time for mother's day" no less and included the hanger Crawford used to beat the shit out of her daughter. <br /><br />And how the hell are you to know what to discuss outside the club anyway? I thought the secrecy part was limited to product announcement, not general speech. I don't even know what the email means? What exactly are they referring to anyway? What can you not discuss? Specific topics such as the Mommy Dearest one? Or mention of particular people? Once the doll goes public, anyone seeing a pic will talk about it and some discussions may mirror what happen on the W club? <br /><br />I think the fact that they act like they are hiding something makes it all much more suspicious. Transparency is key. When you issue gag orders people will think something's up. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-64087947865178327632013-05-23T00:00:08.943-04:002013-05-23T00:00:08.943-04:00Lynda-Marie:
Thank you for sharing your personal e...Lynda-Marie:<br />Thank you for sharing your personal experience on this topic. I hear the crickets. <br />TerriTerri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-27373435975159432802013-05-22T23:55:57.687-04:002013-05-22T23:55:57.687-04:00Actually, to sum it up, I think the last letter of...Actually, to sum it up, I think the last letter of "Censorship" should be changed to a "t" to fully sum up my feelings about it.<br /><br />Of course, I am rather passionate about that, because my dad barely survived both Hitler AND Stalin, and the freedom of speech/press provisions of the US Constitution were like the finest of wines to him.<br /><br />One of the commenters here makes the statement that "We are adults who play with dolls" and I think that is important to remember. We enjoy our playtime, and have HOPEFULLY left the need to make nasty, derogatory comments to other folks playing with their dolls, back in kindergarten.<br /><br />If someone doesn't like the dolls I am playing with, they are MORE than welcome to buy me the appropriate dolls. Go ahead and insert a WAV file of chirping crickets here.<br /><br />Lynda-Marie AKA MiladyblueAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-18063850851206840952013-05-22T23:27:49.513-04:002013-05-22T23:27:49.513-04:00I don't understand why some people have to con...I don't understand why some people have to control how others post.Terri Goldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252743227474930359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-6192201014626607182013-05-22T19:54:36.772-04:002013-05-22T19:54:36.772-04:00My New Years resolution was to give up posting at ...My New Years resolution was to give up posting at the BC boards, because I finally saw one too many snide, sorta mealy-mouthed passive aggressive comments against collectors who actually care about doll quality. It's just not worth going to a board where people try to round-about slam you without directly just doing it, especially not over opinions on dolls.MissSpottyJanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08137549387809564018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-217917876331578492.post-71000595820542906012013-05-21T22:36:52.275-04:002013-05-21T22:36:52.275-04:00Wow! Reading these posts I am still on the fact we...Wow! Reading these posts I am still on the fact we're adults who collect dolls. Making value judgements and inflaming on people because I like one doll and you don't is juvenile and cruel. I feel in some ways the boards almost foster that behavior. Creating doll wars. This brand is better than that brand and thus edging up the market. But really I think the value is in the variety and how collectors integrate their dolls. <br />This idea however of doll manufactures imposing on people membership inclusions that include censorship does nothing to help them. Instead of giving me the member club exclusive information or a lotto chance a one doll I may not like, I'd rather something useful like a coupon on any doll, access to a vault sale, free shipping express, upgrades or accessory packs. That's worth my while, not a bitch blog and 'secret infio' that's gonna leak anyway and 'exclusive' purchase that's gonna be in eBay two days later. Erick DuPreehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03788302984106657000noreply@blogger.com